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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 13 @ 9:51 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Umberger, Injury Updates, Quick Hits
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 9:53 AM ET
Take your time, AMac.

http://www.flyerdelphia.c...-statistical-success.html
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 9:55 AM ET
On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence; that request came from his wife.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Take your time, AMac.

http://www.flyerdelphia.c...-statistical-success.html

- Tomahawk


Back to back Friday, and Saturday..... Can Glass Joe aka CC hold up?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 9:57 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Umberger, Injury Updates, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer


The trouble isn't that Umberger isn't scoring, it's that he's been ineffective all around. He's seeing fairly easy usage, but when he's on ice, the Flyers are getting outshot and outchanced. He hasn't been exceptionally good defensively. He's been awful, really.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
The trouble isn't that Umberger isn't scoring, it's that he's been ineffective all around. He's seeing fairly easy usage, but when he's on ice, the Flyers are getting outshot and outchanced. He hasn't been exceptionally good defensively. He's been awful, really.
- Jsaquella


The discipline though. He's not taking a lot of penalties.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence; that request came from his wife.
- PLindbergh31

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:00 AM ET
The trouble isn't that Umberger isn't scoring, it's that he's been ineffective all around. He's seeing fairly easy usage, but when he's on ice, the Flyers are getting outshot and outchanced. He hasn't been exceptionally good defensively. He's been awful, really.
- Jsaquella


Yup, he's brought absolutely nothing to the table so far.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 10:01 AM ET
On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence; that request came from his wife.
- PLindbergh31

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 10:01 AM ET

- BiggE


On November 13, RJ Umberger was asked to remove himself from the Flyers roster, that request came from Hockeybuzz.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 10:03 AM ET
On November 13, RJ Umberger was asked to remove himself from the Flyers roster, that request came from Hockeybuzz.
- PLindbergh31


Carchidi was asked by a reader on twitter if the Flyers should trade for Richards
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Nov 13 @ 10:03 AM ET
Yup, he's brought absolutely nothing to the table so far.
- BiggE


Based on his last few months in Columbus, the preseason and currently, it seems he is washed up. Of course Hexy is going to stand by his decision to acquire him for Hartnell and Chief isn't going to publicly rip him...shame he has two more years left on his deal that the Flyers are stuck with. Talk about dead weight
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 10:04 AM ET
Carchidi was asked by a reader on twitter if the Flyers should trade for Richards
- Jsaquella


Carchidi would be better suited working for TMZ methinks.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 10:06 AM ET
The trouble isn't that Umberger isn't scoring, it's that he's been ineffective all around. He's seeing fairly easy usage, but when he's on ice, the Flyers are getting outshot and outchanced. He hasn't been exceptionally good defensively. He's been awful, really.
- Jsaquella


Vinny and him have been connected at the hip... both players would probably improve instantly if they were split up. But then they'd be dragging down other lines...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:06 AM ET
Carchidi would be better suited working for TMZ methinks.
- PLindbergh31


Carchidi's job should be one in which he asks, "would you like fries with that?"

Panaccio: "for here or to go?"

Seravalli: "Please pull through"

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:07 AM ET
Vinny and him have been connected at the hip... THE FLYERS would probably improve instantly if they were REMOVED FROM THE LINEUP. But then they'd be dragging down other lines...
- Tomahawk


FTFY
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 13 @ 10:08 AM ET
FTFY
- BiggE


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 13 @ 10:08 AM ET
Vinny and him have been connected at the hip... both players would probably improve instantly if they were split up. But then they'd be dragging down other lines...
- Tomahawk

Even when Umberger was on the Couturier line, his zone starts remained less restrictive than the other two.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 10:09 AM ET
Carchidi's job should be one in which he asks, "would you like fries with that?"

Panaccio: "for here or to go?"

Seravalli: "Please pull through"

- BiggE


Rat burger and french flies.


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:09 AM ET
Take your time, AMac.

http://www.flyerdelphia.c...-statistical-success.html

- Tomahawk


Clearly this will be universally agreed with
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Nov 13 @ 10:10 AM ET
Carchidi's job should be one in which he asks, "would you like fries with that?"

Panaccio: "for here or to go?"

Seravalli: "Please pull through"

- BiggE


Too bad Seravalli ate all the fries already
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 13 @ 10:10 AM ET
Vinny and him have been connected at the hip... both players would probably improve instantly if they were split up. But then they'd be dragging down other lines...
- Tomahawk


All this Vinny and RJ bashing. The bat signal has been lit.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 13 @ 10:11 AM ET
I still have a suspicion -- although the Flyers and Umberger insist he's healthy and have said so ever since the trade was made in late June-- that there is some sort of physical issue. The Columbus Dispatch reported after the playoffs that Umberger was playing through a herniated disc, separated shoulder and broken finger.

With Umberger, it's clearly not a lack of effort. So for a player who has been a five-time 20 goal scorer to go that far downhill between ages 30 and 32, I can't help but wonder if he's being hindered physically by something and just doesn't want make excuses.

I have no way of proving that, of course. Umberger himself says he feels fine physically. The Flyers say he's healthy, too.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:12 AM ET
Even when Umberger was on the Couturier line, his zone starts remained less restrictive than the other two.
- Jsaquella

I like them together. It frees up 3 lines. They might as well just throw Rinaldo on that line too and just pray they don't get scored on
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:14 AM ET
I still have a suspicion -- although the Flyers and Umberger insist he's healthy and have said so ever since the trade was made in late June-- that there is some sort of physical issue. The Columbus Dispatch reported after the playoffs that Umberger was playing through a herniated disc, separated shoulder and broken finger.

With Umberger, it's clearly not a lack of effort. So for a player who has been a five-time 20 goal scorer to go that far downhill between ages 30 and 32, I can't help but wonder if he's being hindered physically by something and just doesn't want make excuses.

I have no way of proving that, of course. Umberger himself says he feels fine physically. The Flyers say he's healthy, too.

- bmeltzer


I think it's just the wear and tear of those injuries. They may have healed but it doesn't mean they don't bother him. I don't think he'll ever be 'healthy'
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